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Post by Adrienne on Jul 10, 2007 18:08:35 GMT -5
Juris, Allisto, Margol, or Klee.
Who kicks the most ass?
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Post by pesposito on Jul 11, 2007 8:24:14 GMT -5
Hahahaha! Wonderful question. But OMG, how could you put Klee in that list? Or wait, you might not mean "kicks ass" in the sense of toughness, but rather character power and potential. Juris feels next in line--Patrick says that he senses this second-in-command role. And we get attached to him (oddly) when he's captive, but he doesn't have the love for our favorite humans that Shep does, and isn't as close to humans in general as Shep is, so he's scarier. As for beautiful Klee, just like the brothers, I think the readers want to protect him. I'd hate to see his innocence lost completely. I mean he came through more innocent than the others; it could be something in his nature (here's me hoping?).
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Post by Adrienne on Jul 11, 2007 9:08:28 GMT -5
It's so interesting to see the same questions come up from so many different people. I've been asked multiple times about Klee's innocence. The question being, is Klee a natural innocent, or is he only innocent because he's newly born? Will he become diabolical and sociopathic like the others after a while?
I wish I had the answer. The consensus seems to be that people WANT Klee to stay good. But I guess I'll have to see what he decides. These characters are buggers to control, and they tend to do their own thing during the writing process. Time will tell. ;D
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Post by pesposito on Jul 11, 2007 9:56:05 GMT -5
These characters are buggers to control
The wonderful thing about this is that whatever does come of Klee will feel natural and inevitable because he will be driving it (well, wait, let me sound sane and say it is all you, but these characters seem to be a very strong force in your imagination. Or ... maybe they've taken control, in which case, good luck!).
I wonder why we all want to hold onto Klee's innocence so badly. I guess childhood is something we all still value deeply. But I also wonder if it's that we all still want to believe that there is something good and innocent underlying even what might appear malevolent in action. If Klee is innocent, maybe the others have it in them too?
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Post by Aurelio on Jul 11, 2007 16:29:51 GMT -5
Klee's seeming innocence is part of his strength too, and actually makes him potentially more dangerous, IMO. That "Satan comes as an angel of light" thing.
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Post by Adrienne on Jul 11, 2007 17:28:20 GMT -5
Indeed. I didn't want to remind everyone that Klee was very willing to kill Patrick at the end. ;D
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Post by franktoast on Jul 11, 2007 18:12:19 GMT -5
Am I the only one who votes Margol?
He's a scary, superhuman bastard with no conscience and a fascination with evisceration just for the sake of seeing how things work. I mean Jesus, if any one of them took a dislike to me, I'd least like it to be Margol. Obrien managed it though.
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Post by Adrienne on Jul 12, 2007 5:36:28 GMT -5
Oh sure, the guy dismembers a few animals, and you judge him as 'bad'.
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Post by pesposito on Jul 12, 2007 8:30:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree Margol is the scariest because he seems the least human; and a good point was made about Klee. He's also innocent of conscience. I just don't want him to go that way; I want him to go more toward Shep. But I definitely see potential for him to seduce with his innocence and then destroy. Or ... okay, he's well open which makes for a great character with loads of potential. It's kind of a weird debate when I think of Margol and Juris. Margol is the kind of scary that comes from randomness--like how we're a little less terrified when someone is killed by a family member than by a random stranger, or sniper shooter, or something we can't place any motive on. Juris seems more reasonable (Shep-like) in that he'll kill what's in his way, but won't kill for sport. But Juris also could have a grander plan, and feels more efficient. You know, these brothers are fascinating. I hadn't thought about their draw as much as Shep's alone, but I know I didn't want Allisto to die, despite everything.
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Post by Adrienne on Jul 12, 2007 11:59:56 GMT -5
Although I obviously wrote Juris to be second in command, I've had several people comment that they think Margol was actually running a puppet regime, and would be the most likely to take over if Shep had a meltdown. Despite Juris outranking him.
I don't want to say too much, but this particular character/plotline will be explored in the sequel, due to a certain event. (tease tease)
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Post by pesposito on Jul 16, 2007 9:25:10 GMT -5
Oh, this is very scary. (And this just made me realize how much, um, safer (?) I felt with Juris than with Margol. How am I going to get through a sequel? I'm already nervous.)
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Post by Bill the Awesome on Jul 17, 2007 7:25:37 GMT -5
I always thought of Margol as not as smart as Juris. But I guess that's only because he was quieter.
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Post by gerardbrennan on Jul 23, 2007 15:39:39 GMT -5
Who drinks brandy, escapes from FBI confines, kidnaps priests and is second in command. Juris, of course. He the man... sort of. Gerard www.gerardbrennan.co.uk
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Post by franktoast on Jul 23, 2007 17:34:12 GMT -5
Hey GB, welcome in!!!!!
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Post by gerardbrennan on Jul 24, 2007 2:13:45 GMT -5
Hey, Ninja Toast. Great idea this. Hope AJ continues to draw a crowd; like that chap, Joey Duvaine, what charms folk. gb www.gerardbrennan.co.uk
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